CD VERSION Features the bonus track "I'll Be Home For Christmas" not available in Digital format. Comes in a beautiful Digipak with Vinyl Look CD.

With & With Out” features the return of bass legend Percy Jones”, L.A. “Drum-Guru” Walter Garces, Grammy winner Neil Citron and Indie musician/producer Jon Pomplin. The project which also features guest appearances from drummers Frankie Banali (Quite Riot) & Rodger Carter (John 5), and fretless bassist Robbie “Pag” Pagliari (Ohm). Others making appearances are Joan Fraley (The Rave), Justin Stone, Chris Colovas & Josh Greenbaum. The album continues the concept of bringing together friends from different genres, disciplines and physical locations, to create music with a unique personality that challenges each player’s technique and style. Pushing the edge of their musical “comfort zone” while remaining a true joy to play and listen to.